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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/204291959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#204291959">(Jul 18 2020 at 08:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey, back in the 2018 edition we had a project board for tracking the changes. I've been wondering as we get closer to 2021 (hard to believe I know) if we should start to do the same? I was thinking of having a org project board that collects all the issues across the <code>rust</code> and the different repos. <a href="https://github.com/orgs/rust-lang/projects">https://github.com/orgs/rust-lang/projects</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/204454184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#204454184">(Jul 20 2020 at 17:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> I think that's a really good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/204470390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#204470390">(Jul 20 2020 at 20:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Alright I've made a <a href="https://github.com/orgs/rust-lang/projects/7">project board</a>. I don't have issues assigned yet as I wanted to make sure there was agreement on the structure. It's pretty straightforward hopefully.</p>
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<li><strong>Proposed</strong> — Any kind of issue around making a edition level change.</li>
<li><strong>Accepted</strong> — An issue that the team has agreed should be included in the edition.</li>
<li><strong>Implemented</strong> — The change is now available in nightly Rust.</li>
<li><strong>Blocked</strong> — Any change that is blocked on a decision or external factor being resolved first.</li>
<li><strong>Ready For Edition Release</strong> — The change has been in nightly and tested for long enough that we're confident in shipping it.</li>
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<p>Another thing I think we should keep in perspective is when is it too late for a change to make it in the edition. I'm not purposing we have strict policy but for example I wouldn't imagine we'd allow a edition breaking change if there's no implementation by the time we're doing the precursor stable release.</p>
<p>To that end has there been any thought on the edition release date? As looking up on my calendar the last rust releases of 2021 are the 9th of September, the 10th of October, and the 2nd of December.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/204471048" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#204471048">(Jul 20 2020 at 20:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it would be goo to pick a date early (though I don't know if now is too early) so that all the different projects that go into a edition can start planning around that release.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205520701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205520701">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="224471">@Lokathor</span> -- this is the work I was referring to</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205520778" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205520778">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="219696">@XAMPPRocky</span> the question of the release date is a good one. I think we should set a date that is significantly before the final releases of the year :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205521024" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205521024">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>cc <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="204346">@Ashley Mannix</span> I saw some discussion of 2021 edition on the libs stream</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205521034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205521034">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>"start of the year" is best, though i recognize that for this particular edition that's probably impossible.</p>
<p>but all future editions should be the first release of the year they name.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205521048" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205521048">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think I agree</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205521063" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205521063">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>for one thing, it's hard to coordinate things over the holidays</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205521080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205521080">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>spring or mid-year might be ideal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205521104" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205521104">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do think we should give ourselves a bit of "leeway" -- i.e., have a rough time and then get it more precise</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205521136" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205521136">(Jul 30 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, this is probably worth discussing over in the RFC thread, it was brought up there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205539140" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205539140">(Jul 30 2020 at 22:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah I was wondering how we were going to scope out the new edition. I think Libs needs to do some planning to figure out what we could do and what we'd like to do for a new edition <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span> Having a rough mid-year date should give us enough runway to try pull together</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205539208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205539208">(Jul 30 2020 at 22:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah I saw the discussion on the thread, I think motivations for mid-year make sense. Though I think this year is going to be unique in terms of planning.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205540970" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205540970">(Jul 30 2020 at 22:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>October 21, 2021, has a rust release it looks like, and that's sufficiently far out for the 2021 edition. Thereafter we can aim for earlier in the year.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205545468" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> DPC <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205545468">(Jul 30 2020 at 23:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>i'd say better to aim for 1-2 releases before that (at least internally) so if people realise later they need more time, they can stretch to October</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205545669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> BatmanAoD (Kyle Strand) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205545669">(Jul 30 2020 at 23:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Either way, 1 release before will be the date the beta is cut.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/205550435" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Lokathor <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#205550435">(Jul 31 2020 at 01:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I picked the particular date literally by just wondering "what's the last release before Halloween?"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/220543476" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#220543476">(Dec 20 2020 at 23:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>We've created an <a class="stream" data-stream-id="268952" href="/#narrow/stream/268952-edition">#edition</a> stream for coordinating a 2021 edition now <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span> There's a HackMD in there with some more notes. I'll drop a link the project board in there too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/220543545" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Ashley Mannix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#220543545">(Dec 20 2020 at 23:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="310399">@Mara</span> has been busy putting a roadmap together with expert levels of emoji-foo: <a href="https://hackmd.io/3eG6OZWHRbSMxoRxzwNhGQ">https://hackmd.io/3eG6OZWHRbSMxoRxzwNhGQ</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/220680108" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#220680108">(Dec 22 2020 at 11:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Super exciting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/230440662" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tony Arcieri <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#230440662">(Mar 16 2021 at 00:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>FYI: I applied for RustSec to be part of the CVE Numbering Authority (CNA) program <a href="https://cve.mitre.org/cve/cna.html">https://cve.mitre.org/cve/cna.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/230440750" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tony Arcieri <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#230440750">(Mar 16 2021 at 00:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>it looks like we're tentatively accepted, although in the tentative acceptance document they're listing us as an authority for the "Rust Project"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/230440757" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tony Arcieri <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#230440757">(Mar 16 2021 at 00:05)</a>:</h4>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/230440817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tony Arcieri <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#230440817">(Mar 16 2021 at 00:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>the only practical implication of this is that RustSec can issue CVE identifiers</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/230440822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tony Arcieri <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#230440822">(Mar 16 2021 at 00:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>(if we're accepted)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/217588-project%20leads%20%28public%29/topic/Tracking%202021%20Edition/near/230440873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Tony Arcieri <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/217588-project-leads-(public)/topic/Tracking.202021.20Edition.html#230440873">(Mar 16 2021 at 00:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's an onboarding meeting. I will ping <a href="mailto:security@rust-lang.org">security@rust-lang.org</a> about it</p>



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